Over the course of the week, I found myself asking the same question after reading many of our posted articles: At what point does a philosophy change and cease to be the “old” philosophy? Specifically, I brought this up in my readings of “Islam in America” and “Hinduism in North America,” where each of the religions discussed focused on how their traditions have been treated in America. A common thread that seems to occur with religions in the United States is the struggle of multiple sects or divisions within that tradition existing in a country with a strong Americanization force and limited financial or political support for those different groups.
In their so called “native” countries, these religions exhibit a wide-range of beliefs and different interpretations that can be very exclusive. However, in America, some groups have found that they are forced by the culture to be pushed together into a collective “American Islam” or an “American Hinduism” or an “American Buddhism,” sometimes with the unintended connotation from others that these faiths are “wrong” or “inferior” to the ones practiced elsewhere. Influenced by this prejudice, it is easy to see how traditions can be manhandled into a more monolithic bloc; those who practice these traditions in America often say that there is no difference between their forms of worship and their “native” counterparts. Some authors we read, like Sarma, believe that since these new and generally more inclusive, homogenous and unregulated traditions must “go back” to their more original divided and diverse form.
However, I’d like to take a moment and explore some philosophical issues that arise from Sarma’s, and others’, assertion.
DISCLAIMER: I am not a philosopher… Yet. I don’t know everything about philosophical issues or religions. My hope in this blog post is NOT to answer any questions but to think about and explore some aspects of class discussions that interested me, or to question what I agree with in order to more fully understand a concept from both sides. Most of the what I found was found in my textbook: A Historical Introduction to Philosophy by Lillegard and Fieser, if one is so inclined to check them out.
There is a philosophical paradox called “The Ship of Theseus.” Briefly, this paradox states that a wooden ship, which carried the Greek hero Theseus, was saved and over time its old wood was replaced with new wood. The paradox arises when one states: Is this ship with completely new parts the same ship that Theseus used?
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I would advance the question and ask: If new and different philosophical ideas are added to a tradition and accepted by it, is it still the same tradition? Also, can a religion ever “go back” to what it was before?
To answer this question, Heraclitus stated that while you cannot step into the same waters twice, you could step into the same river. The contents of the river, the water, constantly change, but the water is NOT what “makes up” the river. Our ideas, our perceptions of the river, this “form” of the river as a unit we can use to measure some change against is what truly “makes up” the river. The Mississippi River is the Mississippi River regardless of if the exact same water particles are in it every second of every day. More succinctly, Aristotle states that everything is made up of different causes, and that if something is fulfilling the same roles as the causes of the object (i.e., what the thing is used for/its ultimate purpose) then yes, it is the same thing. So in our Hinduism study and with my very limited knowledge of this particular religion, the different sects of Hinduism and American Hinduism seem to fulfill both of these ideas: They are used for pretty much the same purpose for their practitioners.
However, is the purpose of something its only defining characteristic? Broadly speaking, the “purpose” of many religions seems to be understand the nature of divinity and one’s role within that understanding, but there are many recognizable “differences” between the various religions. Are the different materials of things what makes something different? Are the interactions with those things what makes them different? Is the actual purpose of those individual things what makes it different? Is there even a difference at all? Is our perception of the differences what make something truly “different?” The world is made of atoms of mostly empty space, yet we cannot see that space, nor the jagged edges of when the atoms are at the edges of objects. We are made of the same atoms, the same stuff, as other humans, but our perceptions understand the difference between brown hair, blond hair, male and female. Fundamentally, our cells are the same, but their purposes are different. Our DNA is fundamentally the same, but what it tells the different cells to do, their purposes, are different.
Contradictory? Probably. I’ve learned that philosophy is mostly just becoming adept at hiding your contradictions.
On the other hand, our second question still remains: Can a religion or tradition “go back” to an earlier state? There are fundamentalist groups, yes, but do they truly represent a “going back” to an earlier philosophical understanding? Is a young person who grew up with a more “modern” understanding of a tradition able to shed those beliefs and start anew, to start with a blank slate? If you have an understanding of something, can you ignore it?
Going back to the Theseus Paradox, Thomas Hobbes later expanded the question by asking if the material that was used to build the ship was removed and then repurposed to build something else, would it still be recognized as the Ship of Theseus? This question seems to be not just Sarma’s struggle in the article, but many people’s struggle when looking at an “American Tradition.” Is “dismantling” and “rebuilding” pieces of a religious tradition and practicing them in a new country, with or without its original artifacts, a faithful re-creation of that tradition? If I take the Ship of Hinduism and then rebuild it to be the Coffee Table of Hinduism, is it still the same ship?
Like I said before, I didn’t intend to answer questions, but I did want to explore and ask questions about identity and the consequences of philosophical change.
Anyway, enough philosophy. Here’s a picture of a corgi:
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| Slurms as a Corgi |